krpalmer: (europa)
Even with the third season over, I'm still "back to the Clone Wars" as I try to work my way through the DVD set of the third season. Picking up after a "to be continued" situation, I watched "Defenders of Peace." The episode had a different writer than "Jedi Crash," but still seemed to catch up some with the continued pacifism of the lemur people. In some ways, though, I suppose I was thinking again it was just an example of how a work of fiction can define its own terms and it's not that rewarding in the end to worry about how this compares against the "real world." While the lemur leader still gets the last dig in, his immovable object is juxtaposed against an irresistible force in the form of some Separatists very obviously not the moral equivalent of the protagonists.

Beyond the episode, though, I did sort of find myself struck by how the little documentary attached to it, the reason I started posting about the rewatching process and protracting it out in the first place, didn't say anything at all about homages to the old movies. That, though, might have had something to do with most of the designs in this episode carrying over from the previous one; the one new character was the Nemoidian general Lok Durd, created to give our heroes someone other than General Grievous and Asajj Ventress to defeat. Conscious of the intersection between Star Wars and Star Trek in George Takei voicing the character, I was amused to see the documentary did talk about that, and more so when Takei commented that he had been cast to do a "fat voice." That was at least sort of a comment on all the shouting once upon a time about how it was somehow "obvious" the Nemoidians were yet another offensive stereotype. Too, I had the distinct impression Lok Durd did sound "different" from the other Nemoidians.
krpalmer: (europa)
After managing to put some thoughts together at the close of the second season of Clone Wars, the thought of doing that again has been something I've been thinking about for a while. I suppose that if I was to try and sum up the third season in just a few words, they would be "changes of pace." Along with the different kinds of stories that each new "plot arc" seemed to bring, the series kept up its experiments in "non-linear" episode order, but in such a way that it seemed more interesting than "too clever" to me. Partway through the season, though, in addition to the new looks for Padme turned out on what seemed a regular basis, the designs for Anakin, Ahsoka, and Obi-Wan were updated to give a sense of moving closer to Revenge of the Sith; that does make me wonder a bit about whether we'll see as many flashbacks for a while so long as they're going to be "obvious" that way.
A few more closing thoughts )
krpalmer: (europa)
At long last I've got around to rewatching another one of the first season Clone Wars episodes. While the third season may be distracting me from my DVD sets, another thing slowing me down may well be thinking I ought to find the time not just to watch the episode but to set down a few thoughts about it, even if I'm not as obsessed as when I started with having to comment on the creators drawing links to the old movies in particular. While I might have started off thinking of that, though, there was a surprise of sorts for me: I found myself thinking "she's so young here!" about Ahsoka, a probably peculiar thought to have about a computer-animated character.

In any case, I might have been somewhere between looking forward to and feeling concerned about commenting on "Jedi Crash" because of some small controversy on its first airing about it making a big deal of the pacifism of the lemur people. I suppose there should be a distinction between "we're not perfect" and "there's no difference between us and the other side," but then I also suppose there should be a distinction between "we can argue we hold the moral high ground" and "we don't have to question ourselves at all."

However, it might well be that when controversy picked up about that, I might have had the slightest trace of relief that Katie Lucas's first credit for Clone Wars was being criticized for something big, and not just for the familiar complaints her father's writing got. Of course, her work is quite respected now. I still had something of a feeling that with this first effort, there's a lot going on, starting with a large-scale space battle that at times felt just a little like "an episode to itself." As well, so far as the little documentary went, the creators might have started off trying to compare the "coming out of hyperspace" effects to the old movies, but they also mentioned referencing comics and unused concepts from the new movies. They didn't say anything about Katie Lucas, but I was interested to hear that George Lucas had suggested that Anakin be injured to contrast his usual heroism.
krpalmer: (europa)
When it turned out that the latest episode of Clone Wars wasn't shown on TV up here when I was expecting it to, I fell back to waiting until the next morning and getting a copy through file sharing. In the process, I did meditate somewhat on the "fansub dilemma" in anime, where fans turn out speedy translations of episodes just aired in Japan but in the process perhaps condition other fans not to buy "official" releases, which maybe holds things somewhat underground over here and might even lead to a "watch it right away, forget about it, and move on to the next ephemeral product" mentality. I've told myself there's no such thing as a "right to anime," but in wanting to see the latest Clone Wars episode right away I seem to have forfeited any "right to the high ground" myself. Still, as with some other episodes that didn't air promptly up here, I might have wanted to see it because I was concerned how it would turn out...
Balance is found in the one who faces his guilt. )
krpalmer: (europa)
It has been a while since I rewatched a Clone Wars episode from the first season DVD set and commented on it, but with the current season on hiatus I do have one fewer distraction from that (although there are still a lot of other distractions...) As it turns out, I was also picking up after a "to be continued" situation, if one where it's not quite established how Anakin and Obi-Wan got captured in between the episodes, given how they'd made a point of switching their mugs with the pirates on either side of them and watched as the pirates collapsed. In wondering about that the thought did come to me, though, that the pirates might have suspected the Jedi would do that, and drugged all four mugs. Of course, that's probably over-analysing things, but it may yet be better than complaining about them.

Of course, that's just one of the points of the episode, and another one of them is the return of Jar Jar Binks. I was sort of impressed that his first appearance in Clone Wars hadn't been just a single defiant gesture, and this particular episode is one that to me supports a particular interpretation of his character I've developed as if in response to the frothing complaints about him being "mindless." It seems quite possible for me to think that he is aware of what's going on around him, but just can't do anything about it. In this episode, he's not just obviously aware but also able to do things about it.

Although the creators kept up their efforts to draw links between Clone Wars and the old Star Wars movies in the little documentaries by mentioning a tenuous design link between the "pirate tanks" and the skiffs from Return of the Jedi, they also happened to mention how the doomed Senator carries the Staff of Ra from Raiders of the Lost Ark. That was even illustrated with a brief clip from that movie, which caught my attention before I remembered that the clips from the Star Wars movies are still "20th Century Fox" movies on "Warner Brothers" DVDs.
krpalmer: (europa)
It turned out that Teletoon has now fallen behind Cartoon Network in showing new Clone Wars episodes, and where last season I just sort of shrugged that off and waited, this time around I resorted to underhanded means to see "Heroes on Both Sides." I suppose part of my motivation may have been the news of the new main character designs, but I may have also wandered off to some pretty involved speculation over one little bit of description. In the end, there were indeed things to think about in this episode...
Fear is a great motivator. )
krpalmer: (europa)
Even with a Clone Wars season now under way, I decided to take the time to watch another episode from the first season DVD set. My motivation for this was no more complicated than wanting to once more have at least a little variety in this journal in between commenting on Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes, which I suppose does leave me wondering what else I might have been able to form and set down thoughts on, but I didn't seem to mind this particular experience.

"Dooku Captured" did seem just a little unusual in terms of episode structure for me; it obviously sets up an episode to follow, but doesn't seem to end on a "cliffhanger," as if it was also trying to be "self-contained" but just in its closing moments. In some ways, this general lack in the series of "to be continued" situations has become sort of distinctive to me, but there just might be a fine line between "distinctive" and "a little unusual." Perhaps, though, a chunk of the episode being "Anakin and Obi-Wan are trapped in a cave" (even if they keep bantering the way they'd been doing before) affects how I think about an episode with an apparent general plot declared in its title.

With the episode over, though, it was on to the little documentary also on the DVD. I got into the habit of commenting on each Clone Wars episode (instead of just watching through them and finishing with the set in a satisfied sort of way) because of some ambiguities over how the creators seemed to be playing up links to the old Star Wars movies. That feeling has faded over time, though, and even if the thought of having got into the habit of "watching the episode and commenting on it" might be slowing me down, I don't begrudge how things have turned out. The creators seem to have reached a good balance in referring to all the Star Wars movies, and there were interesting moments such as mentioning how they had created several designs for the "gundark" only to have George Lucas pick the one closest to the "original" design from a role-playing game book and the space pirates travelling in a "flying saucer" of classic design; they seemed to me to be different from any of the expected occupants of those craft.
krpalmer: (europa)
Aware that the start of the third season of Clone Wars is getting closer, and that one of these days I'll get the second season DVD set (if, perhaps, as a Christmas present), I've been trying to keep moving through the first season. I may have been slowed down, though, by making a post after seeing each episode, and I'm aware that I first started posting after watching the first of the little documentaries that go along with each episode and having the ambiguous feeling that the creators were trying hard to link their work to the old Star Wars movies and just letting connections to the new ones speak for themselves. In just the last little while, however, I may have started to wonder if that feeling has started to fade, and that's left me wondering in turn if I might run out of things to say... but not this time, and for positive reasons no less.

The little documentary for "Lair of Grievous" starts with a look at the general himself, with Dave Filoni saying the letters "EU" instead of just "a comic" when explaining how a tale had already been told of how Grievous was caught in an accident arranged by the Count and turned into that loveable cyborg. He added, though, that this didn't quite seem to be adequate character motivation, and how the creators had asked George Lucas's opinion, which was that Grievous, frustrated that he couldn't use the Force, turned himself into a cyborg to hunt down the Jedi he couldn't become part of. It was, I suppose, the bit about Lucas's opinion being asked that caught my attention; it does seem at least a bit useful against hypothetical complaints that he walks in with changes to what "everybody knows" just because he can. It did occur to me that this motivation is a somehow "personal" one, but going back to Star Wars itself motivations do seem "personal"; too, the thought's occurred to me that while Grievous can be seen as a precursor to Darth Vader, it's interesting to me for there to be some differences between them too. Of course, I can mention this here because the creators decided to keep things ambiguous.

There was also some discussion of Kit Fisto, one of the "five second wonders" of the saga; I was surprised to realise that his appearance changed quite a bit between Attack of the Clones and and Revenge of the Sith (becoming somewhat more like a "flying saucer alien," to my own eyes)... if I hadn't realised it before now, though, it seems to be something "they got away with." It also sort of struck my attention that the creators were impressed with Atsushi Takeuchi directing the episode without mentioning what else he'd worked on, but in a way the sort of casual touch to that interests me too.
krpalmer: (europa)
Watching my way through the first season set of Clone Wars, I've made it to "Cloak of Darkness." On getting to the end of the last episode and remembering that Nute Gunray got captured, I thought it added variety to not always end with "the important bad guys get away," but it just might be I hadn't been thinking their capture also necessitates their escape, and having them "win" that way also adds some useful variety too; the episode, perhaps, establishes at the beginning that that sort of thing is even "necessary" every once in a while. There was also a nice little play on what had struck me as a certain overuse of the "bad feeling" line. Beyond that, the little documentary attached to the episode didn't have any sense of "trying to play up connection to the old movies" beyond, perhaps, a mention of the Emperor's red guards. I did, though, sort of wish there could have been something said about how to plan and animate a lightsabre duel, but maybe that can show up later.
krpalmer: (europa)
Again, it's been a while since I last watched one of the episodes out of the Clone Wars DVD set. I suppose, though, that this time around I was taking my time getting around to the next episode in line because, again, I was wondering about how I'd react to the little documentary from the show's creators... along with, I suppose, dealing once more with mixed feelings running back to when the new Star Wars movies started.

The hard thought's come to me a few times that the consuming vortex of negativity and outright hatred might have first swirled into life and gained special strength around the computer-generated figure of Jar Jar Binks. Goofy comedy relief characters don't have an easy time of it from many fans, of course, and when the critics could pontificate about George Lucas being offensive... and yet, it just seems that I'm wired to feel sympathetic for fictional characters who attract dislike. I know it's just as pointless as disliking them, and yet it happens to me. From that sympathy, though, I can make a quite good effort at telling myself Binks might well be mortified at what keeps happening to him but can't do anything about it, and that may also add to the feeling I've developed that some people may have generated their bad feelings, not just come by them as "obvious"... In any case, it's possible to see Binks's steadily diminished role as the new movies went on as somehow "necessary" but also as nevertheless feeding certainties both smug and angry, and bringing him back in the Clone Wars as making a small effort to reclaim him from being the punchline of unpleasant and unfunny "jokes."

I suppose that when it came to the little documentary, I already knew the creators made an effort to say George Lucas had pushed them into bringing Binks back, and yet knowing that made it easy enough to accept their best efforts at seeming to make a subtle play to a certain subset of their audience. I did, though, take note of how a bit of byplay with the Jedi robe computer-animated in this episode was called an homage to Star Wars itself... and how that seemed just a bit of a surprise for Dave Filoni himself as well.
krpalmer: (europa)
It has been a while since I last watched one of the episodes from the Clone Wars DVD set, and that gap was perhaps pointed out by leaving off on as close as this series, with its quite self-contained episodes, comes to a cliffhanger. Perhaps too, though, my thoughts of going back through the Clone Wars series have become a little blurred by obsessing over the small documentaries that accompany each episode and how the creators always seem a little too intent on playing up resemblances and homages to the old Star Wars movies, and letting connections to the new ones take care of themselves...

As I was watching "Duel of the Droids," though, I found myself thinking I was somehow enjoying it just a bit more than usual, seeing the episode as a pretty good "infiltration-battle-escape" adventure. At first, however, that feeling may also have provoked some uneasy uncertainty about just how I might think the little documentary would emphasise the wrong point for me this time... but once I got to it, at last the creators seemed to have found the right balance in what connections to all the Star Wars movies they pointed out. It was interesting to hear suggestions that there's something "superheroic" about Artoo's white and blue colour scheme and a comment that it was George Lucas who said Ahsoka would be fearless confronting General Grievous (that confrontation then shaping itself as uneven against her was left to the creators to point out). I suppose one thought I had was that I noticed how "Goldie," Artoo's "evil twin," was pointed out to not sound "quite right," but that helped me remember wondering if he didn't seem to move quite right in the animation either, something that would be a very subtle touch if it indeed exists at all. Beyond that, though, I was able to contemplate a little how the action I'd been impressed by did seem to be on a smaller, "TV-sized" scale than in the theatrical feature that started the Clone Wars.

It seems at last that one "full experience" off the Clone Wars DVD set seems to have worked out all right for me, and I was glad that it happened that way. Of course, there are still episodes to come I can indulge myself in wondering about...
krpalmer: (europa)
As if having to pay back a heavy balance for a few episodes of Clone Wars airing up here a week ahead of when they first appeared on Cartoon Network, there was a long wait before I was able to see the final episodes of the second season. I suppose I could have made more of an effort and plumbed into devious areas to track them down, but for some reason wasn't quite compelled to do so. (Whatever the reason was, it doesn't seem to have been standing on principles, what with all the anime "fansubs" I was piling up while waiting for the final Clone Wars episodes...) Nevertheless, the season ended well for me, and now I've got the chance to set down some general reflections I've been mulling over for a while.

There might even have been a little concern on my part as the second season approached. For all I know, this is just an unfortunate byproduct of never quite keeping up very well with "domestic" television, but I seem to have formed the impression that the first season of a show captivates an enthusiastic fandom, but then, as the differences between what those fans convinced themselves the show was "really" all about and what the creators are actually getting on screen begin to pile up, things can sour quite fast... With that in mind, then, I might have picked up on an official comment or two and been a little concerned that all of a sudden, some switch would be flipped and I would start getting the same somehow wrong impression from Anakin as I wound up getting with the initial "drawn animation" "micro-series," that every effort was being made to show him as "dangerous" and just plain unpleasant... (This, I suppose, leads to irritation on my part whenever someone dismisses the computer-animated series and holds up the "drawn" series in the next breath, with an equal lack of specifics.) I might be able to wonder why I'm such a stickler on this point beyond, perhaps, it seeming one facet of a general hostility I set myself against. As soon as we were past the opening episodes, though, and some specific last worries evaporated with the triumphant showing of "Senate Spy" (at the very least one of my favourite episodes of the season), I was feeling fine. However, it does seem at least some people who had taken whatever Karen Traviss had written about the Mandalorians to heart wound up finding a reason to sour... Still, I have wondered myself if one day I'll have to admit the whole thing was "conditionally canonical" for me.

Much was made about "bounty hunters" as the season got under way (and, of course, it wrapped up with them too), but for me a defining feature of the season may have been "movie homages." Of course, they often had to be pointed out to me, but even so I still managed to find them amusing. It might be possible, though, that some of them and some other developments gave a sense of building episodes around one-of-a-kind, never-before-experienced novelties, something I do tend to associate with certain other science fiction series... However, the characters do seem to remain themselves even in the midst of that sort of thing, and that helps a good bit for me. With the second season of Clone Wars wrapped up, I'm wondering what the third will hold, but also aware I might be better able to get back to watching the episodes of the first season.
krpalmer: (europa)
I got around to the second disc of the Clone Wars DVD collection and rewatched "Downfall of a Droid." As I've said before, I do seem to have started building these little posts around not so much fresh impressions of the episodes as close parsing of the comments the creators make in the little documentaries associated with them... but this time around, for all that they were mentioning how "every kid must have wanted to be Luke attacking the Death Star" when setting up this episode's space battle, I seemed to better able to just accept what they were saying and not look askance at it. Perhaps that means these posts will be fading away from now. On the other hand, I did sort of have the feeling that this episode was where the creators started placing a certain emphasis on including "I have a bad feeling about this" every week...
krpalmer: (europa)
Although it's been a while since the last time I managed it, I did get around to rewatching another episode from the first season Clone Wars DVD set. I do have to admit that by this point, I perhaps wasn't thinking so much about the episode "Rookies" as contemplating just how the little documentary attached to it would have the show's creators trying to claim links to the old movies for it (perhaps I was imagining them saying something about the design of the base)... but there was a surprise for me this time around when there was just a little mention that they might be repurposing props, particularly this early on in the series, but "the old movies" did that too. (I use that term too out of the thought that it's a little unexpected, so perhaps that helped it get my attention.)

Of course, perhaps the surprise left me wondering just how to build a little statement on what I'd seen. However, I think I can say that I remembered only while watching this episode that the characters weren't just fighting for their own lives, but trying to get a warning out to protect where they came from. Whether this means that the larger plot of the episode was something of "the MacGuffin" might be the next question.
krpalmer: (europa)
I've got around to watching the next episode in the Clone Wars DVD set and completing the "Malevolence arc." I suppose that by now, I have fixed opinions about what the little documentaries accompanying each episode are going to say, and the creators met my expectations by continuing to lay it on thick how they were following in the tradition of the old movies. In this case, the plan to destroy the Malevolence was declared to have been inspired by Han's comment in the original Star Wars about how "without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova," and so far as Padme meeting up with Anakin, the most they said about it was that it set up a final shot just like in the movies.

Still, something about the first comment did remind me of the old days when I was as happy to look at sites offering "technical commentaries" on Star Wars as anything else. I can wonder myself if Han's comment was meant to imply the danger would all be at the start of a trip through hyperspace and can see rigging a computer to do something its usual operators aren't expecting as "universal," but also remember my surprise when, in the commentary for the DVD of Star Wars, George Lucas was able to say at last that he saw the Millennium Falcon's speed as coming from its computer, thus making "parsecs" something other than a "stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation." Again, though, I suppose I was able to adapt and blend thoughts together.
krpalmer: (mimas)
Still working my way through the Clone Wars DVD set, I made it to "Shadow of Malevolence." It might be that by this time around, in anticipating this episode's little documentary emphasising connections to the old movies I was able to imagine accepting that. After all, this was "the episode with Y-wings in it"...
And yet, a different connection and beyond... )
krpalmer: (europa)
The chance came up to watch another episode out of the first Clone Wars collection, so I started into the "big ship with a gun--blow it up" plot arc with "Rising Malevolence." I might not have been focusing most of all on the episode itself, though. After some certain ambiguities when it came to the little documentary about the first episode in the collection and whether it had the show's creators trying too hard to establish links to the old Star Wars movies at the expense of the new movies, I suppose I was wondering if this would be the point where I would have to let the episodes alone speak for themselves...
It was perhaps fortunate, then... )
krpalmer: (europa)
As I'd asked for, I received the first season DVD set of the Clone Wars series as a Christmas present. I got around to opening it and started at the beginning with "Ambush," somehow struck that there were moments in it I didn't quite seem to remember from before, but also thinking in an idle sort of way that Yoda laughing seemed a perfect soundalike callback to The Empire Strikes Back...

Then, I decided to watch that episode's little documentary to follow up, and all of a sudden I was feeling ambiguous that the creators were bringing up the point I had been thinking before, but pointing out that they were getting back to Yoda having a "whimsical" edge just like in TESB, and he looked different from than in the new movies... All I can really say is that had I had the impression as the series got under way that the creators were thinking in terms of the "prequels" being a series of inexplicable omissions to be addressed, I would have been a lot more concerned about it. Then, I started thinking that Yoda would seem "whimsical" to people because of the way he was introduced in TESB, and that could easily be interpreted as him trying to test Luke, after which he becomes more serious... and then, somewhat later, I remembered him teaching the "younglings" in Attack of the Clones. I suppose it's just possible someone was worried bringing that up would dredge up accusations that the scene involved coming to a "too-obvious" conclusion, but at times that almost seems the point.
krpalmer: (europa)
With "Battlestar Galactica" over, and "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" over, and "Doctor Who" in between series (and I managed to miss that program's latest special altogether), the thought that "needed" to watch something "live-action" and "fictional" on TV (other than old Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes) started to nag at me again. (However, in remembering that mood now I'm thinking that if I can park myself in front of a TV set for an hour or more, I should put even more effort into blocking out good lengths of time to read through books of all sorts...) Reading the preview pages of the newspaper, I decided to try a new series called "Flashforward," which begins with everyone on Earth blacking out for just over two minutes; beyond the assorted crashes that result from this, everyone has seen visions of what they'll be doing months in the future. By the end of the first episode, as the characters start trying to sort out what to do about the future, I was interested enough to keep watching.

In yesterday's episode, there was a small moment when a character (probably not a "major" one, at least at the moment) goes to the empty house of his wife to get some things for his son in the hospital. In the son's room, there's a "Clone Wars" bedspread, and that caught my attention in a pleased sort of way... although I happened to think beyond that reference, and started remembering.

It's quite possible that "Flashforward" hasn't impressed itself on my consciousness quite as much as the three shows I mentioned at the beginning did, and while I can wonder if all three of them succeeded that way by tapping into awarenesses I'd already had, I had heard of the science fiction novel (by Robert J. Sawyer) the series is based on. However, in the newsmagazine article that gave me that awareness a few years back, there was a little comment that, being set "a few years into the future" instead of "right now" the way the program is, there was a reference in the book to "George Lucas still working on Star Wars." Put that way, it's perfectly prescient. Unfortunately, with my general bruised and isolated defensiveness about Star Wars at that time, I could imagine the reference in the book being presented in a fine pitch of casual contempt, and I never got around to reading the book, just one more of a vast number of things I wound up steering clear of through the conviction that they would make contemptuous references to Star Wars and that would just depress me... (However, just today I read in the paper that the series is shaping up rather differently than the book did: in the book, people saw decades into the future, and the perspective was of scientists rather than FBI agents and hospital doctors, no doubt letting those who read it conclude the show is more "conventional...")
krpalmer: (europa)
When I got my DVD of the Clone Wars movie, I was a little curious in seeing the hard numbers on my DVD player's time display for how it was put together. I'm willing to consider that at least some critics found a reason to be annoyed and at least some people found a reason to stay home because they saw the movie as having been "put together from TV episodes." That thought didn't bother me, although I was perhaps surprised just a little by how the Clone Wars TV series started with new episodes... In any case, after jotting down chapter stop numbers, I found myself wondering if the movie could be indeed be divided into neat quarters, or if its production was just a little more complicated than that would seem to indicate.

The "first part" of the movie, obviously enough, is set on its first world and involves Ahsoka establishing herself as Anakin's padawan, but it's a few minutes longer than the twenty-two minutes a "half-hour" television episode runs nowadays once you've taken out the commercials and the end credits. I thought of the "middle half" of the movie not so much one extended chunk as two parts itself, the first including the "vertical battle" as its set-piece and the second involving Ventress's counter-assault on our heroes, but even there I can guess at dividing points to make it a little less than half the movie's length and the first part of it shorter than the second. The last part of the movie, of course, is set on Tatooine and is just a shade longer than a television episode would be. All of this, of course, probably means next to nothing in the end, but it's a little interesting to play with numbers all the same.

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