Well, my Dana-hate was flaring when I first watched the Masters Saga on Space last year, but it's toned down now because I'm just writing about Zentraedi all the time and haven't watched Masters again (except for a few episodes to get some art references for the Tirolian clones), and apparently whenever I write her in my fanfics, she doesn't come off as badly as I actually find her, since nobody's said I'm writing Dana badly.
Although, I think you could make a case for Dana fusing some of her parents' traits in a complex way: Miriya's impulsiveness, Max's idealism, friendliness, and optimism, and both their vigour.
But I did find her incredibly annoying on her own terms, not first thinking about her legacy one way or the other (except for the usual: "Teal hair to blond hair, nope, I don't quite buy it" thing), but just, "My GOD, shut UP!" :P
Yeah, the novels mentioned her getting into fights over her heritage, and the separation issues were something I thought worked really well. The failure of Max and Miriya should have been dwelt on more, but I liked that they thought to do that with Dana, and the mention of Rico, Bron, and Konda being her "godfathers" had my wheels turning (though I wonder if the McKinney duo would have done that if they had known what their original Japanese names were....).
Well, for what it's worth, I think the Robotech version is pretty clear that the Tirolian clones are "programmed" to a degree, from their robotic voices to the confusingly-explained "reprogramming" chamber/area Dana goes into before she figures out what's going on, but that theme might not be present with the Zor since they are apparently a natural race and their triumvirate state is also natural (and related to their psychological functioning, correct me).
Well, the names of the three Muses in Robotech do rhyme, which might communicate that same sense of sameness. (whoa, alliteration). Maybe the other sister did die, I don't know, but it would still be important to tell a story of a sundered Triumvirate managing to live despite that, which is what I was going for with Lantas, and also what I hated about a minor subplot in the Invid War comics. Because I like being a rugged individualist (tm)
But I know the commonality between Max/Miriya and Bowie/Musica and Lancer/Sera is very very superficial, but in the very most basic commonality, visually and in terms of each lovers' set of shared occupations (except for Lancer and Sera), there is still a surprising moment of similarity.
When I think of the nature of the Tirolian clones and the mystery of it, I'm meaning that there's also various Robotech EU things rattling around inside my head:
"The Legend of Zor" comics which suggest that the elder Robotech Masters started out as ordinary Tirolian senators, and the "Sentinels" which are vague on what the "old and the sick" means on Tirol, when those Tirolians appear to be of a very different physical/visual nature than the Masters and Clones...and further muddlling the issue is referring to the lone Cabell as a "Robotech Master", or indeed using that term as a synonym for "Tirolian" when it's pretty obvious that some of the residents haven't benefited from the fruits of the Masters' empire and are indeed "Masters" of nothing...though it's also possible that this sorry state is due to a general degeneration of the PC-fuelled society, and it might have made for a more complex story if the Masters actually were good rulers of their native civilization until the PC started to run out....
Anyway, the novels make a few vague explanations about how things work, but nothing that's satisfying, in my opinion.
Re: Louie:
Yes. *cackles* I only read some parts of the TV series novels, so that bit completely escaped me. I found it in the .txt transcript I downloaded after you mentioned it, and it makes me smirk because it's the kind of connection-making and injoking I'd do, which might be a bad sign, I'm not sure. :P I've even had similar thoughts on ways to poke fun at the Louie/Exedore visual commonality, though the novels' idea is one that escaped me.
(Or maybe me and Louie could high-five each other as fellow Exedore devotees)
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Although, I think you could make a case for Dana fusing some of her parents' traits in a complex way: Miriya's impulsiveness, Max's idealism, friendliness, and optimism, and both their vigour.
But I did find her incredibly annoying on her own terms, not first thinking about her legacy one way or the other (except for the usual: "Teal hair to blond hair, nope, I don't quite buy it" thing), but just, "My GOD, shut UP!" :P
Yeah, the novels mentioned her getting into fights over her heritage, and the separation issues were something I thought worked really well. The failure of Max and Miriya should have been dwelt on more, but I liked that they thought to do that with Dana, and the mention of Rico, Bron, and Konda being her "godfathers" had my wheels turning (though I wonder if the McKinney duo would have done that if they had known what their original Japanese names were....).
Well, for what it's worth, I think the Robotech version is pretty clear that the Tirolian clones are "programmed" to a degree, from their robotic voices to the confusingly-explained "reprogramming" chamber/area Dana goes into before she figures out what's going on, but that theme might not be present with the Zor since they are apparently a natural race and their triumvirate state is also natural (and related to their psychological functioning, correct me).
Well, the names of the three Muses in Robotech do rhyme, which might communicate that same sense of sameness. (whoa, alliteration). Maybe the other sister did die, I don't know, but it would still be important to tell a story of a sundered Triumvirate managing to live despite that, which is what I was going for with Lantas, and also what I hated about a minor subplot in the Invid War comics. Because I like being a rugged individualist (tm)
But I know the commonality between Max/Miriya and Bowie/Musica and Lancer/Sera is very very superficial, but in the very most basic commonality, visually and in terms of each lovers' set of shared occupations (except for Lancer and Sera), there is still a surprising moment of similarity.
When I think of the nature of the Tirolian clones and the mystery of it, I'm meaning that there's also various Robotech EU things rattling around inside my head:
"The Legend of Zor" comics which suggest that the elder Robotech Masters started out as ordinary Tirolian senators, and the "Sentinels" which are vague on what the "old and the sick" means on Tirol, when those Tirolians appear to be of a very different physical/visual nature than the Masters and Clones...and further muddlling the issue is referring to the lone Cabell as a "Robotech Master", or indeed using that term as a synonym for "Tirolian" when it's pretty obvious that some of the residents haven't benefited from the fruits of the Masters' empire and are indeed "Masters" of nothing...though it's also possible that this sorry state is due to a general degeneration of the PC-fuelled society, and it might have made for a more complex story if the Masters actually were good rulers of their native civilization until the PC started to run out....
Anyway, the novels make a few vague explanations about how things work, but nothing that's satisfying, in my opinion.
Re: Louie:
Yes. *cackles* I only read some parts of the TV series novels, so that bit completely escaped me. I found it in the .txt transcript I downloaded after you mentioned it, and it makes me smirk because it's the kind of connection-making and injoking I'd do, which might be a bad sign, I'm not sure. :P I've even had similar thoughts on ways to poke fun at the Louie/Exedore visual commonality, though the novels' idea is one that escaped me.
(Or maybe me and Louie could high-five each other as fellow Exedore devotees)